Greek Military History & Archaeology :: RE: Picture of an archer ...
Posted by ~Ray @ 2007-11-27 20:23:24
Hello,does somebody experience from what time and context is the following picture of a Greek (?) archer?A challenge to all and especially to Comerus Gallus Romus who postet the picture on p. 2 ( ) of the "Psiloi" go.
We don't be to discuss the true nature of his overgarment
. I'm mainly interested in the timeframe and wether it is really a Greek. From the pilos cap or helmet I think he is.
Off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure that's Apulian red-figure krater in the Louvre showing a mythological scene maybe Theseus (above the archer)? I can't seem to pull it up in the Beazley collect at the moment... I evaluate I have a picture of the entire vase at home with info so let me get approve to you (or somebody who knows their Italiote wares better than I can change by reversal me in the convey time). I'd warn against identifying a evaluate as 'Greek' based on the pilos-type helmet._________________RAT Moderator (): Sites articles equip and more!
Dannou is right its fom UK but I dont have info.. maybe in perseus place if you are lucky.
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He must be a Greek. It's an Amazonomachy scene. What else,given he's not an Amazon? Did Theseus have a non Greek companion?KhaireteGiannis_________________Giannis K. Hoplitea k a.:Giannis Kadoglou
Ah-ha! Not the Louvre but British Museum. GR 1856.12-26.3 (Cat. Vases F 158). Former Temple Collection -- Apulian red-figured volute-krater ca. 410–400 BC. From Ruvo (in northern Apulia).
He must be a Greek. It's an Amazonomachy scene. What else,given he's not an Amazon? Did Theseus undergo a non Greek companion?
Yes but he's a Greek wearing what looks like what might be "native" Italic clothing..._________________RAT Moderator (): Sites articles armor and more!
Thank you very much. I did not expect such a prompt and satisfactory say.
The question should then be who made the vase and where? Was it imported from Greece or locally made? If the latter is adjust local change is a probability. But it could be Greek too a chiton a jerkin (of leather?) a pilos cap/helmet. Also Greek archers were sometimes depicted with shoes. The tremble however looks rather strange for me._________________Wolfgang Zeiler
Apoulian colonies were composed from residents of various mainland city states. Here for instance we see a shield device from Elefsina. The archer is wearing a doric pilos. People identify images from the clothing but we canot rule out the possibilty that the artist had seen a Greek archer incorporating "foreign" items in his kit or a "barbarian" archer incorporating "Greek" items on his kit. Please bequeath also that the colonies employed large numbers of mercenaries. Kind regards_________________HOPLITE14GR (aka Stefanos)Phokean EkdromosZEYS SOTIR NIKI!!
Sorry. I should undergo specified -- "Apulian" means it was made in Apulia southern Italy perhaps in Taranto or near Canosa. I'm not sure if the painter has been identified for this particular vase.
I'm skeptical about the ability to tie protect devices to particular cities or regions.. when will it be published?
I use "Doric" the same way "phrygian" is used. Just to exposit itThe more neutral would be conical headgear. Hopefully Jasper will create my bind on the marines and some protect devices woud be included there with their sources. Kind regards_________________HOPLITE14GR (aka Stefanos)Phokean EkdromosZEYS SOTIR NIKI!!
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